"Thick boned" people beware. The older design works fine for us. These are for the narrow people. I admit the description says they are a tighter fit. I liked the colorful design so tried them out. They bunch up my toes and constrict above ankles. Every time I end up pushing the tube parts down to my ankles. They also aggravated my big toe metatarsal joints by squeezing the big toes laterally and may contributed to growing the beginning of a bunion, as I just found out last week. Ouch. I thought the socks would stretch but apparently not enough for my feet. Took me a while to realize the socks were doing me harm, not just minor discomfort.